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pbaz
09-07-2007, 03:43 PM
It's 4pm on Monday afternoon. I haven't posted properly here for an unholy period of time. I'm going to fix that right now...

I'll start at the beginning. I'm pretty sure you all know that I'm now in Edinburgh. The last Big Event was moving house from the cute little 1-bedroom that we were renting in Edinburgh's majestic New Town (built in the 18th century, of course - the Old Town is, um, older). We bought a much bigger 2-bed, ground floor, gardened apartment in sunny Leith. Leith is the part of Edinburgh that Trainspotting was set within. It's not all heroin addicts, though! It has been massively gentrified and is one of the most fashionable parts of the city now. You should come visit! Anyhow, the house was perfect, but needed (and needs) quite a bit of work. Our living room is pretty much done, providing respite from the chaos that is the rest of the house. The central heating was gutted and replaced the first week that we moved in. Our next mission is swapping the kitchen with a bedroom so that our "new" kitchen is bigger and faces onto the back garden. This isn't a huge job, but stirring the contents of our rooms to create enough space for total renovation is challenging. Once kitchenn and bedroom are swapped, we'll be happy to take a rest and wait a few months to gather energy (and cash!) for the bathroom project.

Next update - Sandy. The wee man is progressing very well, although he has hit the "Terrible Twos" a few months early. He currently spends most of his time saying "No, Mummy" to his mum whenever she tries to feed/clothe/hug/wash him. His favourite hobby is slapping mum's face whenever possible. Poor Jen's finding him slightly difficult at the moment but we know he'll grow out of this phase. I'm having no problems with him - mainly because I come home from work and play with him till he falls asleep. It's easy to be loved when you're the source of continual fun. Last night, for example, we were painting mum's laptop with emulsion! It wasn't Sandy's fault that I opened the tin and left the brush next to the computer. By the time I had returned with the ladders, he had pulled over a chair, climbed up onto it, grabbed the brush, dipped into the paint and given mum's keyboard a right good whitewash. Mum wasn't too excited by this artistic display. It's proving hugely tiring taking care of someone with this much energy! I'm beginning to think that my WAR participation will be even less than I first imagined, since I'm unlikey to get more than an hour or two per session - and perhaps only one or two sessions per week! Consider that it took me 35 days /play to get pBAZ to lvl50 in DAoC. If it takes me a similar amount of time to reach the top tier in WAR, it'll be around 3 years to get there at my expected pace!

Now for the meaty stuff... WAR itself. It's been fascinating dipping in and out of the WAR saga as we approach open beta. I really like the way that "passive" classes have been dumped (i.e. healers). I'm sad that there's not going to be any element of stealth in the game, because I was looking forwards to recreating the "old times" in DAoC when stealthers had plenty of targets to choose from and, probably, had an absolute blast playing. I suppose my greatest excitement is around the fact that we'll be jumping into a very popular, populated game with lots of opportunities to explore, roam and (this is important for me) focus on the end-game from the start. One of my biggest regrets about DAoC was not getting fully into the "end game" as early as I could have done. By the time I realised that I was missing the most important part of the game, it was already too late for me to feel like I could catch up. With such limited time on my hands now, I will have to take the long view of WAR. To ensure maximum lifespan and enjoyment of WAR, I will want to get into the RvR side of the game properly. I understand now what people like Pin, Alpha, Belomar, etc were doing in the early days of DAoC. They were using the early days to learn their "trade" against other people who were just learning. They got up the skill curve on a level playing field. Arriving in RvR 3 years later meant that I had a lot of learning to do against much better qualified opponents and I just couldn't do it. I'd like to try to avoid that problem with WAR - although I'm sure my lack of play time will make the situation just as difficult for me, but at least I have a strategy from day 1!

Finally, my apologies for being so appallingly bad at keeping in touch. I'm still, basically, PC-less at home (my computer is sitting on top of a pile of boxes and I need to stand up to use it! I usually borrow Jen's laptop to surf) and I'll cling to that excuse for as long as I can! My plan is to build a shiny new rig some time over the next couple of months - probably after the kitchen is done (completing the kitchen lets us move the dining table out of the living room and, therefore, creates the space for a PC desk). I may just end up taking the easy option and getting a laptop (although the idea of not having a desktop makes my flesh crawl - can you really have a laptop that is an acceptable gaming machine?). Do try to use this site to keep in touch. I get all guilty when someone posts here when I haven't posted for ages (thanks for the prod, Ast! :D). I also recognise that I'm paying for this site, so I may as well use the bandwidth, instead of letting it lie mostly dormant.

Thanks for reading. Please give me an update on what's going on in your part of the world!

Motowntheta
13-07-2007, 09:01 PM
Nice update here Baz, maybe it's just me and you using the site at the moment :)

Sounds like you have got a lot going on at the moment.....:)

Thorwyn
17-07-2007, 08:16 AM
Woot!

Thank for the update, Barry!
Things are "as usual" over here. The developement of Sacred 2 is well on its way, we´re currently in the pre-betastress phase (i.e. preparing for the crunchtime). Looks like a pretty nice game though (www.sacred2.com if you´re interested).

I played lotr for a bit, but found it boring as hell. Currently, I`m playing Enemy Territory (the old one) with a couple of friends. "Proteckt ze gold!" :)
Waiting for WAR....

pbaz
17-07-2007, 09:05 PM
Hooray! There's still life in this old forum! ;)

Haven't heard from Peter in a while - please give him a gentle prod if you get the chance, Ralph.

Got a little holiday away booked for the next 2 weeks. We're off to Grenoble with some friends that have a house up in the mountains. Should get the chance for some hiking and climbing at last. The rain has not stopped up here in Scotland for the last 2 months.

What happened with Joce's wedding? Weren't you thinking about a little trip over to Edinburgh for that? I assume that didn't/hasn't happened, or else I'm sure you would have been in touch to arrange a few beers :)

Matt - how's Izzy getting on? And, just as important, how's your garden office/shed working out? Has it turned into the gamers heaven that you thought it would? :D


Glad that we're all hanging in there for WAR - will be great to work towards a goal with all of you once more. :clap:

Thorwyn
18-07-2007, 08:30 AM
Don´t when the wedding is going to happen... but Joce said that she wanted the ceremony to be as small as possible... so I cancelled my idea. And Peter... I´ll tell him to log on here when I see him next time. We´re currently playing a small Warhammer tabletop league with a couple of friends. I`ll post some piccies if anyone is interested.

Thorwyn
18-07-2007, 08:32 AM
hm.. sorry about the double post. This BB doesn´t seem to have an edit button?!
My ET clan will set up a Quake3 Server soon-ish. So if you´re bored, I`ll give you the IP and login details. ;)

pbaz
18-07-2007, 10:00 AM
hm.. sorry about the double post. This BB doesn´t seem to have an edit button?!

Hmm - might be that I haven't given the right permission levels (vbulletin is a wonderful system, but it is very, very complex on the admin side!). I can certainly see an "Edit" button at the bottom of each post, but since I've given myself admin rights, that doesn't surprise me! ;) I'll look into this problem and add "edit own posts" capability to all users.

My ET clan will set up a Quake3 Server soon-ish. So if you´re bored, I`ll give you the IP and login details

I would like that very much! I'm sure it would be hilarious to see how far my abilities have deteriorated. We played a little Q3 at the LAN I set up a few months ago, but it was difficult to tell how far I had declined since the other guys weren't really Q3 veterans. Even if you're twitch reflexes have been killed by MMORPGs, it's still a huge advantage to know the map layout and be able to run the items. So it would be nice to have some duels again against someone with a similar level of knowledge. Can you make sure that "old" DM13 goes on the map list? Other than that I guess you'll have Tourney2, Tourney4 and DM6tmp? Can't really think of any other 1v1 maps (wasn't there a ztn map that was popular for our duels - "blood run" or something like that? And maybe CPM1a, too?).

Also, do you still have an archive of the old TF Q3 demos? If you do, I'd like to download those from you. I'm beginning to think about another LAN and I want to set up my projector to show some demos. It would be great to have some "personal" demos to show, as well as the super-skills of the top clans.

Please post the Warhammer pics. I played WH40k pretty intensively when I was much younger (I quit after the price-per-model got too high for my pocket-money budget! ;)) but also loved the look of the WFB games. Also played through the WHFR campaign when my RPG group took a break from our usual AD&D/Cthulhu/Paranoia sessions. It's possibly the best "pre-packaged" campaign I've seen for any RPG (although there were a few Cthulhu campaigns a few years back that came pretty darn close to matching it!) and I have strong, fond memories of my guys hunting an escaped circus gobbo in the sewers beneath Bogenhaven... :D This is partly why I'm looking forwards to WAR so much - it'll reconnect me with some fun memories!

pbaz
18-07-2007, 10:07 AM
Found the "Edit" problem!

Registered users do have the permission to edit their own posts, but I had changed the permissions for this "Font Page News" forum to prevent deletion/editing.

I've reversed this, so you should now be able to edit your own posts - even in the "News" forum! :beer:

Thorwyn
18-07-2007, 11:15 AM
The guy who´s in charge of the nOiD server is still about to set up the Q3 server. I told him to add the following maps:
pro-dm6
pro-tourney4
dm6tmp
dm12tmp
dm7tmp
ztn3tourney1 (still a great duel map, if a little boring)
hub3tourney1 (not that great, but ok-ish)
...and all the vanilla Q3 maps.
I forgot about dm13 :eek2: , but can change that w/o any probs.

Unfortunately, I´ve lost almost all my Q3 demos due to a hd crash some time ago. There are still some demos left in another installation, but I don´t know which ones and whether they´re *TF* demos or not. (btw... without drifting into nostalgia here: those TF-BW league years were one of the best online experiences I´ve ever had :)).
But I`ll ask Peter. He´s known to save everything... and I mean EVERYTHING.

Allright, I´m gonna post pictures from our heroic battles!
I`m currently playing Rolemster pen&paper again. Trying to ebay all the 1st edition modules atm... still about 15 left that I don´t have. Thank god I already got all the expensive ones. ;)

pbaz
18-07-2007, 12:49 PM
I probably have some old TF demos hidden on a zip disc somewhere. I imagine Peter would be our best bet, though - especially since he did almost all of the coaching towards the end of our Q3 careers!

I think TF/Q3 was so powerful for a few simple reasons:

1 - It was (I think for all of us) our first ever full-blown "online community" expereience. BW was a great setup with well run leagues, so we all felt like we had a goal or objective to attain.

2 - FPS games involve much smaller teams than MMORPGs. So you get to know the 4 or 5 Q3 guys you clan with a LOT better than the 80-100 guys that you guild with.

3 - There is a very distinct seperation between "gaming" and "socialising" for FPS games. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I feel like I chatted about life a lot more when I played Q3 compared to DAoC. Due to the immersive nature of MMORPGs I find myself chatting lots more, but it's almost all related to the game itself. With Q3, we had our in-game teamchat key binds and that was pretty much it. We'd finish the game and head to IRC to chat about other stuff. So, personally, I feel like I knew my Q3 team-mates a lot better than I knew almost all my DAoC guildies (with a few exceptions, of course!). In fact, I even feel like my knowledge of Ralph and Peter (the two Q3 guildies that survived the long-haul of MMORPG with me) has diminished over the DAoC years. I don't know if others feel like this!

4 - FPS games are mechanically simple - there is a level playing field and the goals are unifying. Which means you can always "pick up and play" with anyone you like. In MMORPGs, segregation is pervasive. Even when playing with friends, the wealth of different things to "achieve" in an MMORPG can drive us apart - someone needs to get a quest done, but others have already completed it; someone wants to RvR but others want to level a new toon, etc.

I'm sure there are lots of other good reasons for the feeling you have about the Q3 experience. The most interesting question, I guess, is how do we recapture that feeling in other games? How do you make all online community experiences as rewarding as the TF/BW/Q3 one? That should keep you thinking for a while. :D

Thorwyn
18-07-2007, 01:38 PM
3 - There is a very distinct seperation between "gaming" and "socialising" for FPS games. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I feel like I chatted about life a lot more when I played Q3 compared to DAoC. Due to the immersive nature of MMORPGs I find myself chatting lots more, but it's almost all related to the game itself. With Q3, we had our in-game teamchat key binds and that was pretty much it. We'd finish the game and head to IRC to chat about other stuff. So, personally, I feel like I knew my Q3 team-mates a lot better than I knew almost all my DAoC guildies (with a few exceptions, of course!). In fact, I even feel like my knowledge of Ralph and Peter (the two Q3 guildies that survived the long-haul of MMORPG with me) has diminished over the DAoC years. I don't know if others feel like this!

This is actually a very good and valid point. The social aspect of TF was definitely different to B&Q. I guess the reason is, that Q3 has a limited "gaming" time. We had our matches, loged on for 2 maps, then logged off again.
DAoC on the other hand is continuos. You log on and play until you log off. And in that time, you try to get as much stuff done as possible.
Quake - at least for me - was a lot like playing in a football team. You have your training sessions, then you go to the pub for a beer and a chat. You have your league matches, then you go to the pub. The team has a fixed rooster, you know your teammates.
DAoC is more like a roleplaying group.

pbaz
19-07-2007, 02:48 PM
Quake - at least for me - was a lot like playing in a football team. You have your training sessions, then you go to the pub for a beer and a chat. You have your league matches, then you go to the pub. The team has a fixed rooster, you know your teammates.

And, of course, there is no reason at all why an MMORPG can't also be played in this way. I assume that the very small "set group" RvR guilds have a social feel closer to an FPS clan than an MMORPG guild.

This discussion makes me question what it is I want to get out of my (very limited) online time. Do I want the small-scale close team feel of an FPS or do I want the large-scale loose team found in an MMORPG? My instinctive reaction is to look for the small team - because with the right small team, my online time is going to be fun and rewarding (and I mean rewarding in a social sense, rather than in the sense of making game progress). But with tightly limited online time, I know that a small team is probably the wrong way to start out in a new MMORPG. Being able to play only a few times per week will mean that having huge numbers of people around me (to group and quest with) will be vital.

So, am I beginning to outline a plan? Ruthlessly exploit the biggest guild I can find for the first months of the game and then hop over to a small-scale "friends and family" guild? Note that when I say "exploit" I simply mean that I would consume the guild resources (i.e. the omni-present large numbers of people to group with and the events that these people would run) without giving anything back in return (I sure don't plan to run any mass events in WAR - I've learnt my lesson!). My problem is that I'm a very loyal person. If a big guild welcomed me, I'd probably feel bad about quitting that guild later down the line.

Hopefully there's enough time between now and 2008 for me to get over that sense of loyalty! :)

Motowntheta
06-08-2007, 08:36 PM
ASo, am I beginning to outline a plan? Ruthlessly exploit the biggest guild I can find for the first months of the game and then hop over to a small-scale "friends and family" guild? Note that when I say "exploit" I simply mean that I would consume the guild resources (i.e. the omni-present large numbers of people to group with and the events that these people would run) without giving anything back in return (I sure don't plan to run any mass events in WAR - I've learnt my lesson!).

Just what I'm doing in LOTRO, despite what Thor says it's quiet a fun game, would be Peter's perfect PVE experience ;) and the guild I'm in is quiet nice. I hope that it's the same way with WAR. If we get back in a team it's quiet easy for me to plan a gaming session a wekk if I get notice, so once we have levelled up (or if we keep to similar levels on the way) we can go out an RvR in a single team. Go go TeamSpeak !

pbaz
06-08-2007, 09:33 PM
Word on the street is that it will take an "average, casual" player 3-4 months to get to the top tier in WAR. After that it's pure RvR.

This doesn't sound at all onerous. And given that we're unlikely to be "average" players after all our DAoC experience, I think we can be RvR'ing together in quite a short space of time!

:beer: